Occasionally, Flute Squad guitarist Ryan Graham will hound me for band money in the pursuit of some hare-brained scheme. This is one of those instances, and this post was written by him.
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We’ve already touched on how we manage our band account with ING Direct. This is a very convenient way to keep track of our money, but the paltry 1% interest we earn on it (through no fault of ING – it’s actually a better rate than most savings accounts) doesn’t exactly make our money work for us.
Sure, most bands use their band account to buy merchandise and pay for CD pressings, which in turn makes them more money and in turn can be seen as an investment. However, wouldn’t it be nice if you didn’t have to do as much work to make your band some cash? Like, if piles and piles of money just appeared out of nowhere with minimal time and effort on your part? THAT’S THE STOCK MARKET, BABY!!!
“Wait, wait, wait!” you’re saying. “Haven’t a bunch of people recently lost their entire savings in the stock market?” To which we reply, “YEAH, STUPID PEOPLE!”
You’re telling me that you don’t have enough balls to gamble away your entire band account in the hope of MASSIVE PROFIT?! Well then have fun living in your little shack with your mom, cry-baby!
THE FLUTE SQUAD IS WILLING TO RISK IT ALL, SUCKERS!!!*
Okay, so we actually received a notification from ING saying that if we opened up a stock trading account through them they’d give us 50 no-fee trades and $50 in cash after the first trade. So we figured, shit, as long as we don’t lose more than $50, who cares what happens? Let’s blow some cash on the stock market!
So without further adieu, here’s the diary of our wild 5 day experiment in day-trading:
Day 1 – 10.26.09
Start of Sharebuilder’s 50 no-fee trades. Fees are usually $10 per trade, meaning it takes $20 to get in and out of a stock. But with no fees, you can cut margins closer and sell at smaller rises/falls without worrying about making up that $20. Day-trading is awesome!!!**
Bought 10 shares of NFLX (Netflix) @ 55.90
Bought 7 shares of AMZN (Amazon) @ 123.07
AMZN went up a bunch, more than $2.50 at one point. NFLX went up at first but then started dropping. Will have to sell tomorrow if it keeps tanking.
Whole market down today. Expect both stocks to go up tomorrow if market does better.
Final tally:
NFLX 55.17 = -.73/shr = -$7.3
AMZN 124.65 = +1.58/shr = +$11.06
Total for today = +$3.76
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Day 2 – 10.27.09
Everything is down today as of 12:45PM. Consumer Confidence Index fell unexpectedly. Not the best time to be invested in retail stocks.
Amazon has dropped over 3% and Netflix is down more almost 1%. Overall we’re now down about $30. There’s a good chance that both of these stocks have peaked and are now on a downturn. I’ll be selling both if we go below a $50 loss, which probably won’t happen today.
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Day 3 – 10.28.09
Amazon was down $5/share at one point yesterday, and I was pretty close to taking the loss and calling it quits, but decided to stick it out. Luckily it went back up a bit, but we still ended up down about $24 when the markets closed.
Not much to do today except continue to stick with it and hope the stocks rise.
Update: Sold Amazon @ 124.98 for a $13.37 gain. Still deciding whether to take a loss on Netflix.
End of Day Update: Good timing on the Amazon sell; it didn’t go much above that and then dropped. Netflix continued to drop, and is down about $2.30/share right now from where I bought it. So altogether we’re still down about $10.
All of the markets went down again today and have been since Day 1, and apparently this is the worst they’ve been since July. So not really a good time to try to make any money off of stocks. So even though we’re down, it could be much worse. Hopefully Netflix will go up enough tomorrow to at least bring us back to even.
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Day 4 – 10.29.09
Futures were up before the markets opened due to a lot of good financial data that came out this morning, so I decided to buy 25 shares of SSO @ 34.01/share. SSO is an ETF that doubles the gains or losses of the S&P 500. It’s a fairly risky stock, because if the entire market tanks you lose twice as much. We’ll see what happens.
Update 12:28PM: Sold SSO for $34.53, for a profit of $.52/share, so $13 total. It gave me some message about “free riding” when I tried to sell, which is basically buying and selling shares when previous trades haven’t settled yet. Hopefully the Feds don’t come after Nikc, since the account is in his name.
In all seriousness, they might freeze us from buying any stocks for 90 days, but that’s fine because we have to be all out tomorrow, which is when the fee-free trading ends. We’re working with such a small amount of money that spending $10 per trade would pretty much negate any quick profit-taking. For example, our overall fees for these trades would have been $60. Even over at tradeking.com, where trades are $5/each, that’s still $30, which would have wiped out the profits we made. Of course, if you’re dealing in $10K transactions, $10 for a trade fee isn’t a big deal because you can make much more on each transaction. But for small trades the fees can sink you quickly.
Netflix is back up around the $55 mark. If it goes up to $55.90 today I’ll sell. If not, I’ll wait until tomorrow and see what happens. It’s definitely a gamble, but at this point we have over $26 in earnings, so I can afford to gamble a little.
Update 4:05PM: Up about $20 total after today’s rise. Netflix went to $55.31, so I’m waiting until tomorrow to sell. Account hasn’t been frozen yet!
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Day 5 – 10.30.09
Markets dropping steadily again today. Netflix down about $1, but I’m waiting until around 12:30PM to sell, which is when it seems to peak again each day, judging by past charts. We’re definitely going to be taking a loss on this one.
Sold Netflix for $54.49, which was a $1.41/per share ($14.10 total) loss. As I said at the beginning of the week, I knew it was possible this had hit its short-term peak, and as a result it was a risk getting in. However, as a long-term investment I think Netflix is probably a great bet, since they’re a cool company with some pretty progressive ideas.
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SUMMARY
Altogether we made $12.27 for the week, basically a 1% gain. To compare, the S&P 500 was down 4.7% for the week, so in this case we actually did beat the market by a very sizeable margin (almost 6%).
But here’s the kicker: The only reason we did this whole thing is because we knew we’d get a $50 bonus. So we actually made $62.27! HAHAHA, TAKE THAT STOCK MARKET!!!
In all seriousness, even though we came out ahead, it was very stressful and actually took a lot of time, sitting there watching stocks rise and fall all day. So while the stock market might very well be a viable way to make some quick cash from your band account, we can’t in good conscience recommend it.*** Your time and money is probably better spent dreaming up and executing great marketing and merchandising ideas or (gasp!) MAKING SOME FUCKING MUSIC!!!
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*We don’t recommend day-trading unless you have about $2500 to start and a huge nerd like Ryan Graham in your band to monitor and stress out about all the minor rises and falls of the market on an hourly basis
**We don’t recommend day-trading your band’s money at all, actually.
***So stick to your part-time job flipping burgers at Starbucks or whatever. SIKE! Be somebody and fucking day-trade already!
I thought this article was about stocks…Beef stock, chicken stock, vegetables stock? No?
LISTEN TO YOUR DAD, BORY!!!
I should write a post called "How To Get a Co-Worker to Listen to Your Song On Repeat For Weeks Until Other Co-Workers Threaten Murder".